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I agree with all the others on the board here about Gates belts! They suck!
I have been using Goodyear GatorBack belts for years. They last longer for me by running quieter their whole life. They last four years like they are suppose to! I hate hearing that squishy-mushy sound that Gates make in about year and a half! The power steering pulley might as well be an audio speaker cone!
Recently, Continental, owned by only one German family that's held privately, has purchased GoodYear belt line. The Goodyear industrial hose product line maybe be included or broken out of it.
I don't know for sure but it is changing. This is per my "industrial haunts" I purchase things from.
They brought all this third hand from the Veyance group that bought the line from Carlyle group. Carlyle got it from GoodYear a several years before all this.
American products are going out a rotating door that's more like "quick for profit only" windmill.
These belts will now sold under the new Continental ELITE branding! They did not purchase the GatorBack name so the name is going to disappear, automotive wise anyway. They were after the helical notch and rubber material formulation.
I just purchased some alternator 15371's from off eBay that were labeled Continental/ GoodYear and they came with the older GB branding still on the box banding.
One came with blue NASCAR band symbol and other one was plain Goodyear GatorBack.
I could care less about paying for that name as they don't make any products ...or it better! No guarantee of anything but a hidden royalty/loyalty cost!
The belts were the same length despite not being matched labeled.
Both do have "Matchmaker" also stenciled on the belts. The Name might mean, Better Tolerances being held.
That could be the answer to that, since coming randomly off some dusty eBay store shelf!
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Another thing I would like to throw out to the board is an incident that just happened to me the weekend before the Fourth of July. I was about 200 miles from home, on a Sunday! No parts store open.
I lost the bolt out of the alternator's adjuster bracket. It's the bolt that goes through the big end with a rubber bushing!
I don't think, I have ever checked that bolt for tightness, over the many years, on any of my cars!
I could not remember if it came with only one bushing or two? Luckily, it's one!
I had just replaced a timing belt on my '86 wagon two weeks ago but that car was not the car I took on this trip. This was due to it having older aging Chinnese tires. I am getting a little nervous about them especially if the roads are hot!
I took my younger mileage '84 sedan that was on this same 1200 mile round trip last month. I changed its timing belt last February so I knew it was all proven and tested! (:-)
Needless to say, the week before the belt change clued me in where to get a bolt! I got it from the lower right hand side of the plastic timing cover.
It is the bigger one that has the 12mm head and fortunately was not too long or I would have had to scrounge up some washers!
I don't think there is another place to find one of those bolts. Does anyone know of another place?
So, if this ever happens or another similar incident that could, I say other fellow boarders, just remember to look around on the vehicle, you might find what you need in a pinch!
By the way, since you are changing the alternator belts, CHECK on that THIRD FASTENER...aka...bushing BOLT!
It's hidden out of sight and out of mind! When I get back home, I will be checking my other three cars!
I heard the strange noise because I was going slow with the A/C on and going to stop a McDonalds. It just happened to have a nice shade tree for this mechanical type to get comfortable under! (:-)
Glad I picked the coolest day to travel.
Oh, by the way, the voltmeter needle WAVED at me so I knew something was up! No idiot light ever came on.
Phil
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