This was from my 760 but these fuel filters are identical to the 240s. It was impossible to blow through it and it was coated with some kind of black sludge. Replacing it made the car run good again. I replaced the original main fuel pump too but I be it was the filter that was the cause of it cutting out. Best guess is this filter had about 300,000 miles on it.

I am reposting these on the BB site to see if everyone can see them.

Hawkeye

Hi Hawkeye.

Thank you kindly for posting your fuel filter images suing the brickboard image loader through your brickboard.com account profile.

This filter appears to be original, doubtful, or may have been replaced once.

The filter media is wholly saturated. You have rust inside the fuel filter container, so there's been some water inside there.

The sludge may be a combination of captured particulates and heavier hydrocarbon compounds.

Also, there may be an oil and water mix in that sludge.

A good possibility of microbial activity eating the hydrocarbons at times, possibly, if your Volvo 240 sat for any time, certainly in the ethanol-era gasoline. (Think of the oil eating microbes feasting all along the Mexico Gulf and into the Atlantic ocean after that oil drilling platform explosion some time bac.)

As fuel circulates, consider the interior side of the low pressure synthetic rubber fuel lines. The rubber inside the low pressure fuel line can slough off in minor particles the fuel filter collects.

The lee side of the filter indicates a mostly intact filter media, though well saturated. Where the back shows on the interior side of the filter may indicate a pending breach of the filter, or merely supersaturation, so the smallest particles and compound can stain through the red filter media. Yet the filter, along the folds as you show so nicely here, do not indicate a collapse of the filter through complete clogging in spite of the interior side support.

Thank you for posting these on the brickboard. I wish we'd all use the brickboard image loader. I don't like the image hosting sites.

Thank you,

Sure Happy it's Thursday (all day long)! (Or happy Friday eve!)

MacDuffed.
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The Volvo 164: The Mightiest of All Volvo Automobiles in Perpetuity

Why can't I see these pictures? Haven't been able to view pictures for about a year now except some that have Brickboard in the corner. If it's a set up problem can anyone advise please? Do I need to mail Jarod?

It would be great if photos like this would show in these posts when I open them. The only ones that sometimes show are the ones with the Brickboard title in the corner. Is there anything I can do about this? Do I need to contact Jarod?
I'm in the UK and using W7 and I.E. Don't suggest using Chrome, Firefox etc, that won't solve anything. It's much more basic than that and should work with what I have always used. It did used to work with no problems. Must be about a year since it worked properly. Perhaps the whole site got revamped and I lost something?

Derek, this is not a Brickboard problem. The photos Hawkeye posted are links to his Photobucket account.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj179/hawkshaw1/760%20Fuel%20Filter/029_zpsylziyfvb.jpg

Take the foregoing and paste it into your browser. When someone names files with spaces in them, the spaces are shown as "percent-sign 20".

Be sure your internet service provider allows you access to these URLs.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore

The main purpose of holding children's parties is to remind yourself that there are children more awful than your own.

Hi Art and Derek,

Agreed. Utterly. Using a photo sharing site like photobucket is a real bother.

I wish everyone would use the image-loading feature on the brickboard even though image loaded to brickboard.com cannot be larger than 640 x 640 pixels.

Photobucket wants you to use the "link" to the image file in web pages hosted on other sites like brickboard.com. Photobucket want you to do this so they set a cookie, technically, I believe a third-party cookie. (You are using brickboard.com, and not photobucket, yet you access photobucket through the coded html link while the poster writes their brickboard.com post.)

While loading the brickboard.com forum thread with linked photbucket images in the posts, you can't see the images before the cookie is set and the browser responds to the photobucket.com domain. You could see this in an era of slower computers and networks, the photobucket thumbail before the image loads.

I've read about, yet not used the current photobucket incarnation. There was a time a photobucket user could allow images, stored in (or under) her or his photobucket account, to freely display the image at any time when a connected i-net user accesses the photobucket URL/URN whether or not a photobucket cookie is set.

Your local browser settings can prevent this cookie from being set. Further, the ISP or IAC (for bigger pipes) you use may prevent cross-domain nonsense ending up behind their network firewall, or other IT or security policy (I love writing these, he-he. So sick of manufacturing engineering.) enacted through the (we want always a secure) data infrastructure system configuration.

So, photobucket users ... in your photobucket account, if you still can, allow the images you link elsewhere to be freely viewed.

If not, and while on the brickboard, could we please load images so they are on the brickboard? And then you learn to link these images using the img src html method to link to these files.

You can use a different photo-hosting service that is not so much up in your business holding you hostage awaiting some silly web browser cookie?

Also, Derek, some nations can prevent content in and out of their nation I-net instantiation. Or it may be your IAC that may prevent you seeing photobucket linked images here in your brickboard.com. Chrome is a concern and FireFox is a bother. JavaScript can go around pop-up blockers. You may be using IE with very high security for the Internet zone. I'd keep it that way. When you see a brickboard.com image, the image you usually receive comes from brickboard.com, of the file processing or hosting part, or cloud service, used by brickboard.com. Though Jarrod, I'm certain, knows this stuff cold, and way better than me (no recent IP engineering for me), so you may want to ask him.

Me? Other than catsandvolvos.com and what have you through free linking of images, I post all Volvo image stuff right here in everyones fave brickboard.com.

I'd rather we not use restricting photobucket and other photo-hosting services for our Volvo images. Yet I don't know what photo-hosting sites allow you to freely link. Setting a cookie as photobucket does (I'd not opened and read the cookies they set ever) is for photobucket's advantage only.

So please, could we post our images using the brickboard.com image-loading tool accessible through your brickboard.com account profile.

I'd like to see your Volvo images, also! Please post them here, right on your best brickboard.com.

Questions?

Hope that helps.

Buttermilk "Any Good Jobs in Switzerland or Finland?" MacDuff.

Thanks Kit and Art
I have a Photobucket account and used to be able to paste in the HTML code in here to show pictures, I think it changed from img to HTML. That facility hasn't been available here, for me, for a long time. I use the PB img code on other forums without any problems, UK VOC for example. Yes I can copy/paste PB links from here into my browser, tedious but doable, but there aren't any PB links showing in these posts so that's no help. I don't know of any other forums where this happens. AFAIK my ISP here in the UK doesn't have any restrictions on this, everything works fine elsewhere. I keep my PC updated and it's fast and modern. I don't restrict cookies. It's no different on my laptop, still no pictures. Years ago when bandwidth was limited it was often an option as to whether you wanted to show pictures or not, but that option probably doesn't happen much now.
Is there anywhere on this site where you can click on an option to show pictures or not?

Wish you would have commented on whether the URL I pasted was viewable in your browser...

No, Brickboard's design predates the canned forum software's use of BB code, so you just have to switch to HTML from BB code to describe a URL here. Can you see the following yellow image?\\



Whether or not to view images is a feature of the browser's configurability, not the forum or content.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore

A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would result in Linoleum Blownapart.

Art. As I said, I can copy/paste PB links into my browser. The one you posted did work. Would be better if they were "live" and blue for direct clicking, something that doesn't happen here. Again, as said, the original post had neither pictures or a PB link, just a blank space.

Nothing yellow showing in your post for me to see just the 2 back slashes.

Am I the only one that has this problem? I doubt it.

"Am I the only one that has this problem? I doubt it. "

I doubt it also. Someone, somewhere has had this trouble just like you. Problem is, that someone is not reading your posts here.

Try this. Here is one URL presented three ways. Let's see how your browser treats them:

(1) Using plain text which you must copy and paste.

http://cleanflametrap.com/imgcode.jpg

(2) Same URL but buried in html href tag (aka hotlink) to which your browser might display in blue so you know you can click it:

http://cleanflametrap.com/imgcode.jpg

(3) Same URL included using html img tag:




Tell us if you can see the image presented by using 1, 2, and 3.


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Art Benstein near Baltimore

The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.

I have driven the car for the last 200k miles and this is the only item I neglected because it was so enormous. In my ownership the only snake oil was techron and that only a few times. The only logical explanation is some type of rubber breaking down. Could ethanol be breaking down rubber hoses somewhere?

Bad news is the car cut off again twice today for 3 seconds or so. Going to check out the fp relay tomorrow.

Hawk

"Could ethanol be breaking down rubber hoses somewhere?"

Good point. Of course the hose between the tank and the main pump would provide the most surface area for something like that.

And my comment about not seeing this black contrast before... I can't be absolutely certain, but it could be my looks date back before the MTBE was switched to ethanol in my state.

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Art Benstein near Baltimore

Drive carefully. It's not only cars that can be recalled by their maker.

Good post. I've cut a couple of them open. Clogging after sitting is IME from all the sand-like fines that collect in the tank - deterioration of the insideof the tank+ breakdown of the gas?
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240 drivers / parts cars - JH, Ohio

If the previous owner had not replaced the fuel filter in 300k miles, what else did they fail to maintain?

Because they do tend to last almost the life of the car, I have one replaced on a Brick in now 20 years of driving them. That was on car that sat...in a field...for about 10 years.

Most will last 250-300K miles if you are getting 1st-world quality fuel and the car is pretty much continuously driven.

Volvo rec change is 60K miles on the LH systems. which is about once ever 5 years.

On K-Jet systems it is every 10 to 15K.
KJet systems have injectors that are pressure controlled and have more parts that can become clogged AND the change of the fiter is easy due to its location.

I am quite aware of the spec's but I also know these filters are, like many things on our Bricks, MASSIVELY overbuilt for that change interval. Part of that was they designed them to the worst case scenario (buying petrol from roadside tent vendors in Iraq and having the car filled one 2L water bottle at a time...for instance) and just applied it to all markets.

With the quality of the fuel we get int he US, Canada, and western Europe, I see not issue with them at 250K miles...especially on the plastic tank cars.

What do you think, does that look like some Diesel got mixed in at some point in the chain of delivery? I've cut a few open and never once saw anything so contrastingly black against the tan of the filter paper.

The citing of a change interval could really be just another roll of the dice, a fresh deck, an IPO or choose your favorite gambling analogy. Between things in an owner's control, like maintaining a fairly well-filled tank, and things beyond his control, like bulk fuel distributor funny business, there is no diagnostic we can easily perform to estimate the resistance in a fuel filter without doing the same labor required to change one.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore

Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it.

Could be diesel and could an owner at some point used some sort of snake oil fuel additive. At one point I think Marvel Mystery Oil was purported to lubricate those pesky fuel injectors returning them to like new operation. It could even have been cross-contamination for leaking underground tanks.

You fellows sure have some interesting speculations going on here! I will add mine to the mix!

I have seen metal flakes in those filter I have cut open.
I have concluded that they come from the fuel nozzles being scraped in and out of all those filler necks.
People beat the heck out that unleaded only prevention plate. Maybe because there is no hair around them. (:-)

Now factor in the yanking, flopping and twisting of those rubber hoses around fenders and under bumpers I will buy in that's it's rubber!

I can remember seeing stations having a service company having to change hoses and nozzles out.

I don't know the frequency these wear items but it cannot be limited only to the outside appearance.

One might have to ask those tank and pump repair guys that!

As far as diesel product I had a petroleum neighbor tell me that all fuels go through the same lines and truck tanks.
They insert what is called an expanding " pig" between products. The next product fluid pushes the pig down the line behind the other one to a take outor point of locking it between two valves.

According to him, there is Minimum cross contamination and they filter the products several times, supposedly, when each transfer takes place.
I haven't noticed if the "drop trucks" have filters though?

I also remember Amoco having filters on the hose just before the filler nozzle. It was an advertised feature years ago!

Sinclair and Amoco both pushed what was called "white gas" for your lawn mowers out of 55 gal drums. Located in some a back room of the station! Might not have been taxed as heavily. Non highway use, I think?

I am going back some 50+ years! (:- now it's our unleaded regular.
Things changed....
Like bulk motor oil from the glass Mason looking, jars with tall metal cones and caps.
It was far cheaper than the newer, hand punch to open, metal quart cans.

Phil

AMACO or American used to sell a "white" gas right out of the Hi-Test pumps.

Dan

Ah! for a moment you had me thinking I was having a senior moment!

The back room drum was in a Sinclair station that I hung out around when I was10 to 12 years old. I got 15 cents to wash cars for the owner. I then spent that on a new brand and bigger 10 or 12 oz. bottle of Pepsi for 10 cents and some Tom's peanuts or Lance cheese snacks for a nickel!
Of course, I spent that in his front little office!
Many days before stores on the inside or child labor laws.
No video games to occupy me. Color TV was even new and we had one because my Dad repaired them. Color shows were only on at night.

In thinking your post over I thought I had confused the name with the transmission repair company so I looked around outside my head.
I know there could be spider webs in my head, so went out on the web! (:-)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoco

Thanks for given me a tap back and now I have a refreshed mental tune up! (:-)

Oh, to stay on topic of filters, they were in glass cups mounted out by the carburetor!

Phil

Love it!

Thanks for posting.