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I have the same setup but with the beauty rings too.
re re-sticking the lower door trim: I've found Goop et al tube compounds to fail after a few months. I found a 2-sided tape that is a permanent fix do far. I think I saw it here; maybe got it at Home Depot.
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So the steel wheels run true and round, compared to alloys?
I would have thought just the opposite.
Maybe that explains why the wife's 940 with alloys seems to ride at times like there are flat places on the tires, but can't find anything.
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Alloy wheels that are not bent or otherwise out of true as rotating mass would run well as any steel wheel.
Why Andrew? Whaddya alloy wheels and tire blues you got? Maybe a better tire store that will want to sell you tires or someone that can after a balance check the wheel is bet to the tires are faulty?
The Bridgestone / Firestone Weather Force II (Weatherforce Plus rather?) tire I bought were defects, A guy sold the set to me for 100$ through a spokane.craigslist.org advert in 2010 or so.
When I went to get the tires mounted and balanced at Les Schwab, they told me the tires were not round or concentric in construction. One Corona ally wheel, the newest in appearance, was bent some how, they told me. He said they did their best to rotationally (?) align a tire on a wheel.
I ended up with eight or nine Corona wheels at about 9$ a wheel. Winnowed down that lot to the four I have now.
Add to it the enamel or lacquer sealant on these wheels is about shot. There is no seal between the inside of the alloy wheel where it contacts the carbon steel hub works. That 1992 240 GL came with the Multi-X wheels, and was purchased at a Volvo dealership in Littleton, CO.
As CO-state, where I'm going, uses magnesium chloride as ice melt, with unsealed alloys wheels contacting the hub, the carbon steel hub works will rust and corrode in seething and nasty ways.
As have the hubs works on this 1992 Volvo 240 GL. Had to use a 3-pound hammer (my li'l Mjölnir) to knock the rear brake calipers off the hubs they were so corroded on the hub. A heavy steel wire brush, brush, brush and there you go.
If the corrosion gets to the parking brake works, the spring may fatigue, the brake pads delaminate (from p-brake pad separates from the backing) and such.
Though as robust as the hub works are, it'd have to be pretty bad corrosion with high mileage.
Would like to inspect, clean, and repack both rear axle hubs with some NLGI-II grease. The quality stuff. (Though as a hub inspect can go horribly wrong, doing it in wintertime on an apartment complex black top driveway, well ....)
The Virgo wheels I had, and these were the later variation made in Norway with the hole for the hub alignment pin, were so damned heavy, and one or two were bent, and the sealing finish was failing. The tires were old. I do not understand the fervor for the Virgo wheels. The rims are so very heavy. Way heavier than the same size 740 15" steelies.
And yet the 240 GT wheels from 78-80 were so strong and light on my 1979 242 GT. Rather have these.
Though no matter the Volvo factory allow wheel that fits 240, they are all old, they need rehab to check for true and fractures, bead blast, and new finish, gets real pricey at up to 150$ a wheel in Spokane. Probably cheaper here in Saint Loogey, the malodorous hell hole.
So, for bang for the buck, I'll stick with the steelies.
It's not like I have a choice to move up to a newer car made in the 21 century.
(May want to move up to a 1993 Volvo 240. HA!
Why, whaddya you folks imagine?
No images this trip.
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We've had leaking alloys on ~1/2-dozen 2000-up (GM, Ford, Chrysler, some imported) vehicles. Dealers will usually reseal the inside once under warranty. After that, you have to read a service bulletin about how this is "normal".
Usually the leak is a few lbs/month; on a 2014 truck it reached ~5 lbs/week. A friend with a tire store sells a sealing with new tires/reseals but it's not 100%.
When I get upgraded/alloy rims on a 240 I sell them.
Friends in Europe who drive often in the Alps prefer alloys. The original steel rims on my 1956 Willys pickup might lose 1-5 lbs/year; ditto my 1963 IH pickup; 0 loss in the homemade trailer on 1970s truck rims ....
For me, steel. "Look, he bested you with strength, your greatness. He bested me with steel. He must have out-thought Vizzini." - Inigo Montoya
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My 85 245 had hub caps like this and nice SS beauty rings to top off the look!
Dan
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you know Rustoleum makes a nice silver paint. A Pint of it has served me well over 20 years on 8 steelies.
Hub caps look nice...but how have you let those steelies get that rusty.
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For me, it wouldn't be complete until I'd painted the rims eg. gloss black.
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Oh, I agree, utterly! I'd probably go for a matte finish.
Yet one would need a good degrease and clean, and then a bead or sandblast.
Some folks get good, durable results using a rattle can. Sort of hard to do in colder temps, now. I do not have a heated, ventilated space to clean these wheels or grease and brake dust and rust, prep the surface, and spray a new finish on. No garage.
I'd hope to seal it all up using a urethane color finish. That's fancy.
I'd choose matte for steelie wheels as the roof top clear coat failed this year. Moon roof still works, though.
Thanks,
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Evap-O-rust and then POR-15.
POR-15 works well on top of surface rust, but needs a topcoat to protect from UV.
So I'd suggest POR-15 then matte black.
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Looks like a lot of clearance around the rear wheel. Are you running on a stock suspension?
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Hi guest,
You one of the folks from the many Volvo-related sh!t-faced-space-book groups I urge them folks that they can post anonymously, and yet join the mighty and powerful brickboard.com? Exhaustive in my advocation. The advice on them facespacebook groups is so silly in moments. Art Benstein and Onkel Udo II and others here should join these groups. It'd be a lark for them! Like LOLs or LULz.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/Volvo240Club/
The Mission: Save All Rear Wheel Drive Volvo Automobiles.
The tires are P 185 / 65 R - 14 Hankook Optimo H724 tires. So, slightly lower profile sidewall tires. Reducing final drive ratio a bit. They are round, concentrically so. Round, round, round wheels and tires for the first time in nearly a decade of my ownership of this 1992 Volvo 240.
Can feel the entire suspension and driveline articulate through all speeds for the first time, fully. I know hhwhut remains to be done. No biggie with a garage.
When it was still new to me and the roof still had a clear coat as Winter is leaving Spokane in early 2010. The Coronas in front. It came with complete set of Hankook snow tires (why I seem to like these Hankooks) on universal (and very heavy) 14" steel wheels as two are mounted to the rear hubs.
On my 1979 Volvo 242 GT I had from August 1989 to 2002, I ran 185 / 60-series on the stock 14" Volvo 242 GT wheels. A wholly superior wheel over these crappy Corona wheels. The Corona wheels are nearly 30 years of age.
Some years ago, from a white 1991 or 1993 240 wagon, I pulled the rear springs from it and installed these in the rear of the green 1992 Volvo 240 GL you see here. So, there may be a slight rake to the stance of the vehicle. The orginal springs were all rusty. Recycled! As WA-state makes it easy to recycle. Can't say so for Mzzou-RAH. (Just trying to recycle the old water pump from my 1990 240 DL wagon, little red ...)
This 1992 Volvo 240 GL sits on Bilstein Touring shocks. After 7 years, still fully stiff, and perform better than the wholly overrated (on this and other rear wheel drove Volvo forums) and much more expensive Bilstein HD (heavy duty) where the front struts do not fit into the late 1980s and ABS 240 strut tubes.
23 mm front Turbo 240 stabilizer bar. Factory stock 19 mm bar on that pictured 1992 Volvo 240 GL. I have several heavier rear 240 stabilizer bars (and two more front 23 mm Turbo 240 bars).
I have a complete set of Bilstein HDs on my 1991 240. The rear damping (dampening) action is not the equal of the front Bilstein HDs. Mushy and $$$ to revalve. A complaint I'd read about in other articles. Still have the factory springs after 15 years of the TME Volvo 240 Wagon lowering springs. I mean to restore it to normal ride height.
Spokane Stairs to No Where
Say NO to crappy Made in Mexico Sachs (by Boge). Utterly suck. Yet no more Made in Germany Boge.
Raise the lowered.
Right, right, righty, right, righty, rightly-so, righty, right.
Does that help?
Brake Dust Boy (AKA Poor Nephew - on the End of AmeriKan Fascism)
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Hi Kitty,
It looks really good. I might switch to that size. By any chance, do you know the distance between the oil pan bolt to ground?
As always, thank you.
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Nope. Yet still higher than the 1991 kittys grey Volvo 240 sedan with TME 240 Wagon Lowering Springs.
Why do you ask? The 1992 kittys green Volvo 240 GL sedan is normal ride height.
So, considering diameter change, probably no lower than less than 1/2" of the pan bolt to the ground on 1992 kittys green Volvo 240 GL sedan.
Not like I'm going to lower it so the door sill drags on the ground in the grocer parking lot and then drift it on dry hard concrete pavement around and around in some roundabout like so many of them to do lower and destroy ever more 240s with faulty drive line, bushes, and crappy tires. Yo-yo. Hmm, I'd been considering welding the open diffs to help with the drifting. (Really, that people do this to 240. Ha, I digress.) Just kidding!
Again, why?
Raise the lowered.
Go Seahawks, this day! Yet also like the Green Bay Packers.
CO-state, and soon, for me!
Thanks,
Duffed.
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Hi Kitty,
I have been using a size 185/70R/14 tire. I like it very much. My brick can go over a large crater and still survives like a jeep. As you have known, these tires are getting very hard to find. The Walmart carries the size. But they won't install since it doesn't match the original spec. So I need to look for a different size. I thought that I might want to try those tires that you put on your brick. Does that work for a wagon?
During the hot NYC summer season, the asphalt roads turn into a series of small bumps. Some are large enough to take out the oil pan. I want a high clearance.
Also, it helps during a routine maintenance like an oil service. Currently, I don't need to jack up the car. I have a large oil pan. There is a barely enough room to put my hand in between the oil pan and the other pan. During winter, I want to go in and out. I try to get the job done under 10 minutes.
This is why. :) As always, thank you.
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Hiya Uncle Swedish Baklava!
Sure Happy it'z Rooby Tooozday (all day long).
Oh, if you mean you plan on tire replacement, than indeed go with the standard size P 185 / 70R 14.
Yep, the tire size will work for a wagon. The green and red beastie are normal ride height.
Though as Uncles jwalker and Volvo From Heck suggest tires size that will work and give a ground clearance boost.
I had a relative insist on Gislaved tires at P 205 / 70R 14 on his 1979 rödbrun (Swedish) or rødbrun? (Norge and Danish) 245 DL with BW55. (Red brown - you know, the baked pumpkin pie color with lots of pumpkin pie spice when 140s and 240s were all like north woods boreal forest Autumn colors that I love.) There was some rubbing and contact of the front strut with the 205s. The relative had me pull the same deal where I swapped out the wheel with the snow 14" steelie wheels. The 195s should work.
I also got a set of P 175 / 60R 14 tires for the 242 GT when one of the old tires that came with got a gash from a rock I failed to avoid driving on the U.S. 199 from Grant's Pass Oregon to Crescent City, CA - Brookings-Harbor, OR. I got these at a Price Club Costco, yet had to sign a waiver as the tire size was wrong. That was all West Coastie high driving.
I'll imagine your a thin person, so you can perform an oil change by turning the wheel and getting at the drain plug from one side.
The kittys grey Volvo 240 sedan, as you know, has the TME lowering springs with the Bilstein HDs. It has the 10+ year old Michelin P185 / 70R 14 tires on it. I'll get these again. And for the same reason as you, as soon as I can (and I could have done this 4-5 years ago, I want off the stupid lowering springs. I still have the factory springs and wish I had the factory struts I took off to fit the stupid, expensive, and wholly overrated Bilsetin HDs. It is the transmission mount cross member that gets bumped. But I've gotten perfect at avoiding bumping it. The front Bilstein HD do dampen nearly like new, yet the rear Bilsetin HD, that are like 10 year newer, are not a match for compression and rebound.
The Bilstein Touring are so charged with gas they make the wee green beastie 240 seem like it is on stilts, a bit. Maybe 1/4" or more raised, still. The front dampers have settle. The rear springs are from a 1991 wagon, so there is a bit of a rake from the rear sloping to the front ever so slightly.
I like the raised height. I probably should have chose 70 series like the owner manual recommends. But to have actually round tires on the thing makes it feel like the slides are greased and always going down will. I can['t get quite over it or used to it.
Yet, yeah, keep the normal ride height or better. Though you may want a bit beefier tire like a Michelin, yet the Cooper Starfire tires (like the Starfire 340 tires on the wee red beastie wagon) seems to have an extra side wall ply and an extra tread ply. Something more durable for them New York roads you dewscribe, and you put on like 15k miles a year on your 240, yes?
The Walmart technician mechanic also recommended the General tires as they are also made by union worker at a tire plant in some Ohio valley state or somewheres. I forget.
I went for Hankooks, as, if I'd wrote before, the wee green 1992 beastie came with a set of Hankook directional snow tires on it. Those things eat snow. And the Hankook all seasons I got apparently do snow well, so say the reviews, yet will keep a set of two snow tires in the boot in case. No in the Pac NW anymore.
And miss the snowfall that smells like the ocean even 300 miles inland east of the Cascade mountain range in the rain shadow.
Here, the snow is polluted, like the rain, in archy city, where millionaires want the arches-baseball cardinals city for fork over 80 million $ for some stupid MLS soccer team stadium, with no team. Two soccer teams named the St. Louis Steamer folded as no one went to their games. More NFL sour grapes. Should have kept the NFL Cardinals.
No better team the Seahawks can lose to than the Green Bay Packers. Glad the Seahawks beat Bill Bell-o-cheat and the so-called Patriots this season. I was rooting for the Packers all the way.
With no one to assume the Seahawks Marshawn Lynch sage running back supreme mantle, they may not quite make it with their 22 million / yr (for 4 years) Russel Wilson quarterback. The rest of the NFL may have figured out Pete Carroll by now.
Football, like all professionals sports, is boring, save for Wimbledon, imho.
Sorry to go on so.
Hope that helps.
Got 2% when I thought it was 1% Today, Milk Boy-eeeeeeeeeee.
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hi kitty g- dont know where id find those hubcaps but would like to for the 92 245which has those standard slotted black steel wheels like youre using. currently it has those volvo plastic wheel covers which are common . would those caps work onmy 245's wheels? thanks tons oldduke think that hubcap look is better even though folks might think im a poor bohemian from asbury park. what think you .
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Hiya Uncle Old Duke,
Always good to read your posts! Hope all three pedals, the family, and yours are all aces, in the pink, and right as rain!
I found the set of stainless two-piece center caps for steelies at salvage yards in the Pac NW. Specifically, Portland, OR and Spokane, WA.
Japp, on your 1992 Volvo 240 (P245) Wagon, these two-piece center caps would secure to the hub works, through the center hole in the 14" steelie wheel.
I acquired these additional center caps as the factory OEM wheel plastic wheel covers, like yours, start to fail as they'd been curb boomped more than a few times.
I do have extras of the OEM plastic wheel covers from my 1991 and a few more I'd collected (I believe). I don't want these and would be glad to send them. I also have some after-market look-alike plastic wheel covers, yet these also failed as the plastic is so brittle. Yet don't want to discard them as they'd be useful to someone. I don't like how Jarrod requires the CLASSADS to include a phone number. So, I may post here of craiglist ads.
There do exist variations of stainless hub caps on earlier 14" steelie wheels that may require on-wheel hardware to secure the hub cap to the wheel. Others may incorrectly list the wheel as fitting to a 240 14" wheel, yet actually fit to an early 700 wheel.
Else, you can find the 240 14" steelie wheel two-piece stainless wheel center caps on the usual suspects like eBay (ePray, Flea bay), craigslist US ads, and else where.
On eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-240-242-244-245-Center-hub-cap-set-stainless-two-piece-set-of-4-/192043104574
Each center wheel cap must include the three cap to hub springy metal things.
These center caps won't work with the later versions of the "deeper dish" 12" steelie wheel. Requires hardware on the wheel to retain the cap to the wheel. Like 74-79 or 80 something.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-240-242-244-245-DL-GL-Set-of-4-Hub-Caps-For-14-inch-Steel-wheels-1974-1979-/232168585917
Then there's the big one-piece center cap. It also secures to the earlier 14' steelie wheel using on-wheel hardware for 70s GL 240s with V-6 with steelies, though I'm not sure. Maybe like the small one-piece covers?
One auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GENUINE-1975-78-240-260-WHEEL-CHROME-CENTER-1-PIECE-HUB-CAP-COVER-1221644/191635395545
Another auction, yet shows the center cap obverse side:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/282243535873
Using Row52.com, the closest salvage yard to you, per that service, is GO Pull-It in Jacksonville, Florida 32220. No 240s. Nothing rear wheel drive.
Japp, a poor bohemian from asbury park. Or we can call use the term shabby chic, though we are no longer West Coast-ers, for now. Though we do care for them 240s better than the mattress on the floor hipsters.
On craigslist:
Volvo 14" hub caps - set of 4 - $30 (Hamburg, PA)
http://reading.craigslist.org/wto/5915052426.html
We don't want these, do we? Someone would.
VOLVO ALL RIMS, TIRES, HUBCAPS - $1 (Long Island, NY)
VOLVO 240 FITTED CAR COVER& HUB CAPS - $50 (East Hampton,Conn.)
http://hartford.craigslist.org/wto/5820570182.html
No description or image.
Volvo 240 2 Piece Center Caps - $15 (greenacres)
https://spokane.craigslist.org/wto/5908791582.html
I have a set of Volvo 240 center caps that I no longer need, Volvos are all gone! $60 for the set obo. Thanks---Rabdy
Posted 2016-12-06 7:21pm. This is near Scamkane, WA, the fraud capitol of AmeriKa. Yet a complete set of four, all with the three retainer clips each. These will work on your 1992 Volvo 245. The black around the center cap V has worn off.
Check:
The iPd Volvo 240 parts classifieds, yet no hub caps:
https://www.ipdusa.com/classifieds.asp?CLC_ID=33
Though some poster may have parts they do not list.
https://www.brickboard.com/CLASSADS/
The poster named Frank Ponte in New Jersey (where we find Asbury Park?) has an advert for a 40-year Volvo parts collection. Maybe contact him?
Also, the ads on Turbobricks, yet require account:
http://www.turbobricks.com/forums/index.php?
I may have more of these stainless two piece center caps in another box as well as the three springy steel catches the secure to the outer cap. I'll have to look.
I have boxes of Volvo 240 stuff. Wire harness bits, emblems, gauges, electronic that I realize I don't need and do not want. You should have seen the collection I had that I left behind in Brookings, OR. Just the Volvo nuts and bolts alone are so handy.
Finally, here is my craigslist advert selling the Corona wheels I just removed:
Volvo 240 14" Corona Alloy Wheels - Set of Four w/ Tires - $1 (Near I-44 & I-270)
https://stlouis.craigslist.org/wto/5915795452.html
I had hoped to rehab them and use small center caps. Oh well. The tires are what is defective.
Sorry to on so long. Does that help? Questions?
Happy Ruby Toozday!! Back to cover letter writing and job applyin'.
Hope that helps you, Uncle Old Duke. Yeah, can't have too many Uncles!
Thank you.
MacDuffed.
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SB--I recently installed a set of Kuhmos on the '80 245 size--195/70/14. If you are in the neighborhood stop by and drive it -- or if you're willing to put the work in--switch them over to your car for a test drive. -- Dave
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Hi SB,
I used Kumho Solus KR21 tires in size 185/70-14 on my 240. Dunlop snows in winter. I bought them from Town Fair Tire. Maybe you have one of those in Brooklyn? Good prices and good service!
Below is a link to 185/70-14 tires at TireRack.com. They have 12 tires`in that size. Also have a newer Kumho Solus tire for $52. Might be worth considering...??
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?zip-code=02540&width=185/&ratio=70&diameter=14&rearWidth=255/&rearRatio=40&rearDiameter=17
J
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Thanks kittysgreyvolvo, it does.
PS, now if I can only remember my bb pwd so I can log in and not respond as guest. Got it on a sticky-note here somewhere... :-)
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