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Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

Yesterday I changed my air filter in my 93 wagon and I'm pretty sure I knocked a hose or wire loose in the area of the air filter box / MAF sensor. The car won't start now and it's the only thing I can think of since it drove fine and we started the car a few time whilst doing other processes (new radiator, thermostat, fan clutch, alternator belt, power steering belt, a/c belt). It was only after we hooked the air filter back up, idled it for a few minutes to try to get the coolant to drop and shut it off that we couldn't get a restart. I'm not near the car or my manual so I've got nothing to look at except the internet, so don't fail me now!








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    Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

    Alright, no vacuum leak that i can detect. No start with or without MAF, pulled the plug and applied conductive grease. We have spark from starter to distributor. It doesn't seem like the engine is getting any fuel. Fuses all check out, replaced lead from starter to distributor. Where next? When we replaced the radiator I did drop A LOT of coolant onto the alternator did I ruin it? We've been cranking it on a trickle charge and still nothing, not even a cough. Its all so mysterious because we started it and drove it out of the garage and had it running perfectly for 15 minutes then no start.








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      Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

      I had to get it out of my friends garage so I had towed to my mechanic. They did get it to start after poking the engine in different ways than we discussed here. I wasn't able to get a real definitive answer out of them other than that. they did replace the RPM sensor since they were in there but had it running before that. Still A mystery but it runs and starts!








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      Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

      When you were moving things around did you disturb the CPS wire? Also IIRC the 93 model has a bunch of stuff connected to the positive battery terminal. Make sure they are all clean and making good contact.








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      Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

      Are you hearing the pumps run during cranking and shut down after you stop cranking? This help diagnose the System relay. It has two parts. Pumps and injectors sides.

      Check the AMM to be sure all the pins are down inside the connector by peeling the rubber boot back and back probing those pins while all in is connected.
      When you get it open, check for power on the orange wire as this powers the AMM and the injectors with battery voltage.
      The ECU later make them fire by grounding them in pairs after it sees an ignition signal from the from the ICU. Of course, this all started after it sees a signal from the CPS saying the engine is turning.
      If you are not flooding the plugs it's a fuel system problem.
      You said you have spark to the distributor cap but you need to check to an extra spark plug held onto the heads valve cover or other ground spot as well.
      You could have a bad rotor button. They are prone to failure and most of us carry a spare.
      It appears there is a failure to communicate between modules with two possible culprits in between. A relay or rotor button usually stand up first before going into mechanical issues and thinking timing belt.
      No fuel is a big cliff hanger in the middle.

      Good luck
      Phil








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      Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

      If your battery is weak a trickle charge won't have enough cranking amps to start. Have you tried jumping it? Are the plugs wet or dry after cranking? Bright blue spark or weak yellow?
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        Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

        Battery was measuring around 12 volts which is good. We got a yellow spark from the starter, not blue but if was strong. We had it on the charger so not to run down the battery too far. It's a stick what about a push start? I just don't want to damage anything else.








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    Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

    I will try all of these checks when I see the car tomorrow. Just to be clear, AMM is MAF right? Could some moisture in the filter cause the MAF/AMM to malfunction? I'm hoping for the best though.








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      Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

      When your checking the AMM or MAF for pushed in pins and you have it disconnected try and start the car. If it starts your AMM has failed.








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    Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

    After I found a pushed in pin on the AMM in our '88 745 GLE, I did three things -

    1 - I peeled the boot back on the female side and when the pins were in their proper place, I made a line across the wires with a Sharpie. Whenever I plugged the AMM in, I peeled back the boot to see if all the pins were seated, then I folded the boot back.

    2 - In my car, the wiring to the AMM was routed around something (I forget what it was!) - I rerouted the wires in front of the item and therefore the wires were pushed toward the plug instead of being pulled from it.

    3 - I made a tag out of flat plastic and attached it near the plug with a warning about the bad pin - for others to hear of the problem.

    4 - (I know, I said three) I showed the problem to my wife and two daughters in case the problem popped up again. (Daughters? - actually I taught them some things about cars and made them check tire pressures, fluids, and a visual of belts and hoses every Saturday, or they could not use our cars.) Christine even changed a flat on a Dodge FWD in a swamp in Saskatchewan!

    Interestingly, I had the problem right after a tune up by my dealer!

    Even if your problem is not the plug, you might follow my advice to avoid a future problem.








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    Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200


    Check the small hard plastic hose from the header panel going into the filter box.
    Check that you closed the filter box correctly. Check the small hard plastic hose to maf is snug onto maf. Did you remove the accordion hose? check it for holes.








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    Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

    A loose wire or hose should be pretty obvious. Got spark ? Fuel Pressure ? Is the connector for the AMM fully home ? Did one of the pins push back when you plugged it in ?

    Greg








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      Vacuum Leak after airfilter change? 200

      I was thinking the AMM plug too. Even if it is attached it might be worth removing it, checking the pins condition and reattaching securely. When I had my 240, I carefully dabbed a little dielectric grease on the prongs (pins).

      As mentioned, also check all hoses condition and connections. Including the air intake snorkel and accordion hose.







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