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Bulb type? 200

Anyone know which bulb to use for the handbrake cover for the rear footwell?

Not sure how to upload photo of what I'm referring to

It is a small wedge type bulb.

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Bulb type? 200


The only wedge mount bulb in the handbrake cover is the rear ashtray light so I assume this is the one you mean.

It is a W2x4.6d but you will find it in your local auto parts store as a 2721 bulb, usually in a package of 2.

There is also the rear seat belt reminder light but that one is a bayonet mount.


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Bulb type? 200

Yes, rear ashtray bulb.

I'll try the 2721.

Interesting chat about the voltage, I don't know , I'll just try it and see what happens.

I also need those gauge panel illumination bulbs.

Thanks for all the help everyone!








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Bulb type? 200

Wagner goofed.
The 2721 lamp is T1- 1/2 base and a 12 volt lamp.
You want only 14 volt lamps.
It's rated 1000 hours at 12 volts, and would burn out fast in the 240.

CEC has four T-1 1/2 14V wedge bulb options: E37, E70, E73, E74
E73 being the best with 15000 hour service life at 14 volts / 1.12 watts

A good place to buy miniature lamps is CP Illumination 847-722-7138
Call Carlos for prices. A box of 10 CEC E73 $10.25 shipped

Bill








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Bulb type? 200


I'm guessing you wear suspenders and a belt.

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Bulb type? 200

CEC lists the 2721 correctly, if you go by the original equipment.

Gotta think about that 12 vs 14 bit, Bill. What application would you imagine a 12V bulb be correct vs a 14V bulb? If a supplier touts the 14V bulb for longer life, given the automotive environment provides something closer to 14 than 12 to that circuit most of the time, he's marketing successfully to the casual buyer.

All automotive bulbs in cars with 12V systems are nominally 12V bulbs. Nominally. And in theory, they will all be burned at an average of 13.8V. Marketing.


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Bulb type? 200

Hi Art,

1993 94 user manual
Ashtray, rear 1.2
W Volvo P/N966326

https://www.volvopartswebstore.com/products/Volvo/Bulb/11158800/966326.html
This Product Has Been Replaced By Part Number: 989806

Your Volvo 942327 crosses to a raft of auto mfgr. rear ashtray lamps

CEC lists the 2721 only for the instrument cluster

They have a place for the ash tray lamp which is empty

see here:
https://cecindustries.com/vehrefAU/VehicleReference_Results_view.php?editid=69&editid2=3894&editid3=19881991

The 2721 might be OK in the instrument cluster where the voltage is dropped by the rheostat. I don't think the ashtray light is included in the dimmer circuit so it probably see's close to 14 volts.

What's the chances the genuine Volvo ashtray lamp actually has a 14 volt filament?

This just in by searching Ebay for "LED t1 1/2 wedge"
Ebay remembers what you didn't purchase last time and coughed up an Eico E73.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174768906070 Now there's an Eico seller at Ebay.

You can find cheap T1 1/2 wedge LEDs to put in the ashtray get More light, not fussy about voltage just put them in the other way if they don't light

Here's an LED to try: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234145985335
There's some cheaper ones but with flimsy plastic bases and wires to avoid.

Cheers, Bill











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For 240 drivers 200

Nah.

The 2721 is the correct bulb for the rear ashtray light in a 200 series Volvo. It is more than an ashtray light; if you leave the ashtray shut, it does a fair job of getting the rear footwells out of the shadows at night.

Because of its poor reliability, I think anyone who has owned a 240 for any length of time is familiar with the 2721 in most of the places it is used. The automatic shift selector indicator is famous for thrashing that bulb into early demise.

They are in the accessory gauges like the small clock, ambient temp, and voltage gauge. They illuminate the light pipes behind the heater controls and make the rocker switch panel visible at night. They are used in all the lighted switches, but interestingly NOT in the instrument cluster.

Bill your 940 (did you ever own a 240?) got rid of those tiny wedge base bulbs and their troublesome sockets. You should be thankful.

The part number you found in the "1993 94 User Manual" (what?) is for a lamp used in a 240 cluster for warning lamps. It is a T1-1/4 bulb, but has a twist lock base, not the wedge base. Its only use in a 240 is for warning lamps, such as oil pressure, etc. They are very long lasting because normally they aren't powered on. And the socket makes a reliable connection to the cluster circuit card. If you have someone buy a package of ten of those, I guarantee they'll have 9 leftover forever and possibly all ten.



The nighttime panel illumination is yet another twist lock lamp, holding a much larger T1-3/4 wedge bulb through 1988, and thereafter a 3W halogen W165. That's a troublesome bulb because most of us turn that cluster illumination all the way up and use it day and night because we leave the headlight switch in the auto position. And those bulbs are not cheap, nor are the LED substitutes effectively aimed.





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Interior Car lighting 200

Hi Art,

Please tell me what voltage you see at the 2721 lamp sockets, other than the instrument cluster, when highway driving in a 240, say 3000 RPM.

There's the voltage output at the alternator/Voltage regulator and a voltage drop to the sockets. What is the voltage at the 2721 lamp sockets not on the rheostat such as the rear ashtray lamp?

Bill










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Miniature Lights 200

CEC is a major lamp manufacturer based near Chicago
Goto these links

https://www.ceclighting.com/index.php
select "miniature lamps"

Wedge lamps All Glass
https://www.ceclighting.com/products/miniatures/glass_wedge.php

Application Guides
https://www.ceclighting.com/products/brochures.php
Select "Vehicle European"

You are looking for 14 Volt lamps, Euro style.
You'll have to dig around in their catalogs to find your lamp.
They do a better job starting in 2000 with the Volvo S70 in their
application guide. You can contact them to see if they have older Volvo
application guides for 200/700/900 etc. This info should be posted in the
FAQ

Once you find the CEC part #, Goto Ebay and search (example) "CEC PC37"
You'll find your lamp without the huge markup from Volvo.
Post back with your results.

Good luck, Bill








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