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I need an education. What's the story on the Ti? What are its features, body styles, years produced, desirability, etc. I see these models mentioned a lot, but I don't know anything about them.
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Thanks, Doug C.
81 242 Brick on Blocks, stock; 86 240, 129K, pictured in Rolling once, now has smashed left quarter panel thanks to the driver of an F150. Daughter safe in her Volvo.
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someone claiming to be Jordan G
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Tue Dec 24 11:36 CST 2002 [ RELATED]
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Also Check out www.turbobricks.org if you are interested in modifying Turbo Volvo's. Thier message board is VERY active. Read through some old posts you will learn quite a bit. Also, it is a new board lay out, but you can look at the old board, which had thousands of posts. it can be linked from the new message board "old message board" center of the page I do believe. Reading the archives is excellent. We saved all posts which we felt should be saved. Lots of information.
Our family just bought an other 242Ti. It is a factory equipped Intercooled 240 turbo.
A regular turbo non-intercooled car, can be intercooled. You can buy a whole kit to perform it for around 50 bucks.
Or you can do what I did, put a turbo engine in a 1979 242GT :)
www.volvoeh.com/engineinstall.html
Jordan
jordan@volvoeh.com
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It's just our slang (shorthand) for 240 Turbo Intercooled (Ti)...we typically only use it for the factory intercooled 240's as they seem to have an extra punch.
Not used for later models as they are all intercooled.
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http://www.fidalgo.net/~brook4/oilslubesfilters.html
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Makes sense. Thanks. It sounds like the intercooled version is the one to look for. Do the non-intercooled versions have any advantages over the intercooled, or is intercooled better all the way? During which years of the 240 were the intercooled turbos available?
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Thank you, Doug C. 81 242 Brick on Blocks, stock; 86 240, 129K, pictured in Rolling once, now has smashed left quarter panel thanks to the driver of an F150. Daughter safe in her Volvo.
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Intercooled 240s were produced halfway through 84 and in 85. Earlier turbos (82 to 84 can for the most part be easily upgraded to intercooled. Major differences are the intercooler and associated plumbing, heavier clutch and flywheel, a different (probably better) control pressure regulator, higher stock boost. There is debate about the flywheel. Some say the earlier lighter flywheel lets the engine/turbo spool up faster. I like the heavier clutch on the Tic's.
If you were going to buy a turbo 240 I would worry more about finding one that is in great shape, and not whether it is intercooled. Intercoolers parts are pretty easy to come by, as 700 series intercooler parts fit (actually they are better than the 240 originals IMHO).
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All 700's are intercooled, and since they share the radiator design with the 240, the parts all fit. Plenty of older 700 turbos in junkyards these days. Finding any 81-85 240 without rust is a challenge. They rust more readily than the later cars since they lack the plastic stone deflector skirts around the bottom. The Turbo was introduced in 1981- see Volvoworld.com or swedishbricks.com for great genealogies of the 240 series. The best ones were the last ones, and for the rarest combination, try to find a late-1984 242Ti... the intercooled engine plus the last of the 2-doors. Any of these cars can be upgraded to 1984-85 intercooled specs however.
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Rob Bareiss, New London CT ::: 86 244DL, 87 244DL, 88 744GLE, 91 244: 808K total
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Thanks for the info. Your comments bring up a question about the 2-doors. You say 84 was the last year of the 2-doors. The last 2-doors in the 200 series, period? Does this make any 2-door more valuable and collectible than a four-door of the same model, if everything else on the cars is equal, like old Chevy's,etc. I'll check the sites you mention for some history. I'm growing to really like these 240's.
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Thank you, Doug C. 81 242 Brick on Blocks, stock; 86 240, 129K, pictured in Rolling once, now has smashed left quarter panel thanks to the driver of an F150. Daughter safe in her Volvo.
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someone claiming to be broken login guy
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Tue Dec 24 11:48 CST 2002 [ RELATED]
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The '84 intercooled 242 is indeed a rare beast.
The TOTAL number of '84 2-doors was 7887.
That would include B23F (non-turbo), B21FT (turbo), and B21FTi (turbo intercooled) engines.
Best guess would be 2000-2500 B21FTi, tops.
I suppose as much as any 240 can be collectible, these are. But that's not much. A serious enthusiast would rather have a very nice '81-'84 non-intercooled car over a ratty car with the B21FTi.
The same comparison can be made with other cars of the same era. An intercooled 2-door may be of more value than a 4 door or wagon.
Let's face it. It is most certainly not worth killing yourself to find an '84 with a B21FTi. Sure, if you happen to come across a nice one, buy it.
The rare car by far is the '83 242 "Flathood". It's a homolgation special, complete with intercooler. Pretty easy to forge one, though, and the real ones are rather pricey, and only of interest to the true fanatic.
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Exactly, my 82 242ti flathood is just that, almost everything I want it to be. Found a flathood a junkyard, cut down an early style grille to fit, Intercooled it, ect ect ect... Then I burned 6k into the car, not really sure why! lol
Heres some pics
www.pbase.com/dkauer744
I have a bud that has a damn near perfect 83 Legit flathood and it is sooooo nice. Problem is, really theres only a handful of people who would really dish out the cash for a Volvo, even though it is rare. He paid just above the average price for that car(what a steal though).
They are easy to forge, though. My comando bumpers are a bit of a give away though!
Intercooling is a MUST for high performance, and theres really no adverse side effects from it. Only positives!
Doug
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