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Interesting

I did not jack it very high - just enough to make me some room, but I probably should have should let it down all the way to allow the best draining of the pan. In checking the oil, it looks like a bit of the old oil was still there, not much ..just enough to make it look slightly used.

This time I used a high end Bosch filter, and since this change was full syn and so was the last - I should be OK with that bit of old oil in there.

Still curious about the Fram and no oil, though.
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