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Kevin,
You said, "I checked the survey results at Tirerack.com and see that the MX4 gets a 7.8 in wet traction while the P400 got a 7.7."
My response is that I do not trust the tests of a tire seller as much as I do an independent tester, like CR.
You said, "So the general public's experience doesn't support the CR report you quoted (that MX4s are poor in the wet)."
My response is, quite the contrary, I have cut and pasted far more recommendations for the P400's than the MX4. BTW, I have spoken to several resellers of Michelins in my area and they told me that almost all of the vehicles they put the MX4's on were ones that had ABS. So that supports CR's findings. Neither would I trust the tests of Michelin that did not test the MX4's on non ABS vehicles. That is like asking a Ford dealer in 1997 what he thought of Ford Explorers with Firestones AT Tires.
You said, "Not saying the MX4 is better, since I have not used the P400, but the tirerack survey results mirror my favourable experiences with the MX4."
Good for you.
But I also checked out Don's recommnedation of the Avid. It looks like a best buy, good ratings and low prices.
Now, Yokohamas are tires I was wondering about and would like to know more, data-wise.
Generally I say, I doubt the general public tests tires as rigorously as CR did. BTW, the Pirellis got # 1 twice now in four years. Sorry to disagree with you, but more people that I spoke to liked the P400's over the MX4's.
Now, basically, I am a Michelin person. I never even bought anything else for the last twenty + years, or so. So you certainly can't say I am prejudiced against the MX4. I just really believe there is something to what I read. In fact, I made a previous Michelin purchase based on another CR test that rated a different Michelin Tire # 1. I got them and have not found any problem with them. Also, I would probably like the MX4's if I did buy them, and would probably not experience any problems. I just don't drive as rigorous as CR tests tires.
But I would like to try something else now. The tires I would like to get for my 240 seem to be nonexistent. At any rate, Pirellis have been the choice of mfrs. of some of the fastest sports cars on earth. Vehicles that do high speed autobahn driving regularly. They hold their own and speak for themselves.
You better defend those Michelins - ever hear of buyers remorse? What was that line in Simon and Garfunkle about ... "still a man hears what he wants to hear ...."
Rob
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