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i usually start out by telling them about my 85 volvo with four wheel disc brakes, dual piston front calipers, side impact door beams, crumple zones, gas mileage, high quality parts, fuel inj, high mileage motors, trap door for tank pump, and on and on, stuff their cars didnt get until long after our cars did. and we buy them when their cars are ready for the crusher. they look at you funny when you tell them about the beauty you just picked up with only 175,000 miles. if they can shut me up they usually dont bring up the subject any more. then came my turbo which solved the only semi shortcoming in my opinion. ;~{}