I have them on my PV and find them too harsh there. I used to have them on a 245, and they felt fine, a little firm, but that's the way I like them. I was a little disappointed, however, that they gave up the ghost after about 50K miles, whereas the originals had lasted for about 100K. I have them on my 142 as well and figured they were a bit on the stiff side till I put Bilsteins on my 240 wagon, which feel a lot firmer to me than the originals, and now the 142 doesn't feel that stiff anymore. I guess it all depends on personal preferences and what you get used to.