1.) Kbb.com comes up with a trade-in value for a '94 5-speed wagon in "good" condition with 198,000 miles of $1,405 -- minus the cost of repairing the dents.

I'd estimate my '98 is worth about $4k as a trade and it's a newer turbo with fewer miles. It had no dents the last time I looked.

2.) I bought my wife a new '05 Odyssey EX and the damage was about $28k, including sales tax and custom license plates. I mean if you want to tart one of those things up with useless junk like leather seats, a power tailgate, a sunroof and those run-flat tires that nobody keeps in stock you can, but if you want a big box on wheels, the $28k -out-the-door- Odyssey EX has everything you really need in a big box on wheels.

-BTC

'98 V70 T5 5-speed, 162k mi, front IPD stabilizer bar, rear factory HD bar, Bilstein HD, Volvo strut tower brace and skidplate, e-codes, V-1, Mobil-1 since new

"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair." -- Douglas Adams (1952-2001)