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posted by Art Benstein on Wed Dec 9 05:59 CST 2015
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OK, you've eliminated the usual cause of failure to bleed a "new" caliper on the front. This is the first step.

Since "floppy" and "firm" are subjective experiences (ahem) it could be true that suddenly just as you decide to replace a caliper and master the brake booster gains spectacular ability to assist the pedal. Keep in mind that is all it does.

If you have air in the system, your concept of firm, with the brake assist missing, may not include effective braking. Your leg doesn't have the muscle memory needed to compare an effective firm pedal to one that feels firm sitting still, pushing on it with the same effort you'd use WITH the power assist, but is actually soft when called upon to stop the moving car. Air.

Given bench bleeding the master was new to you, I suspect getting the air out of your system will be the true goal you seek here. Go back to the beginning; what was it that motivated you to replace the caliper? The master? I won't ask again. Promise.
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