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Hard brake pedal with engine off; soft pedal with engine on 200

posted by montysano on Fri Jun 18 15:27 CST 2010
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Hi all,

Once again, trying to help diagnose my son's '83 245, which is 150 miles away.

He has a stiff brake pedal when the engine is off, but once he starts the car, the pedal goes almost completely away. Brake fluid is full, doesn't seem to be leaking.

I searched the archives, but the ones with a similar situation had just replaced a brake component. No brake work has been done recently on this car.

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    posted by Cliff Pope on Sun Jun 27 22:17 CST 2010 > V
    - Hard brake pedal should SINK 'slightly' with engine on, per Bentley page 520-5 (NMI) [200]
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- Similar symptoms? [200]
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        Hard and soft remain subjective terms [200]
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