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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

Greetings,

Yesterday while driving the timing belt on my carburated 1984 B21 in my 240DL let go. I just shifted into fourth gear and it was like someone shut the key off on the engine. I dropped it into third to see if perhaps I lugged it for a second in fourth, as I was towing a small trailer with a barbershop chair in at the time, but it still wouldn't go. I rolled into a parking lot and tried to start the car and noticed a distinctly different sound to the engine. In the back of my mind I thought "the timing belt is shot", but I had literally just filled with gas, so I thought I might have received some bottom of the tank fuel. I cranked it and few times and it still wouldn't go.

Long story short, it wasn't the fuel, a mechanic came and checked it and the timing belt is broken.

Questions:
1) Is the B21 a non-interference engine?

2) How easy is it (ie. how many hours labour) is it for a mechanic to tell if I've bent valves / damaged the pistons, etc

3) What else can expect to have possibly damaged?

4) How many hours shop it take a mechanic to fix this if it's only the timing belt that needs to be replaced and there is no internal engine damage?

Thanks in advance,

Jaak








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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

Greetings everyone,

Thank-you very much for the info! Greatly appreciated as I was able to put my mind at ease that I didn't destroy my engine. The mildly *amusing* thing is that the day that it happened I was thinking... "when I pull my 245 or 544 out of winter storage I really should change the timing belt on my 240 since I don't know how many miles are on it." ;)

Picked up a new belt today and will have a mechanic friend help me with it tomorrow night. I'll be sure to check the other things (tensioner, seals, etc while it's apart.

Thanks again!

Jaak








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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

1) Is the B21 a non-interference engine?

Yes, you engine is just fine. The only North American Red-Block engine that's interference is the B234 (16-Valve) as equipped on the 89-91 740/940 GLE vehicles, but those are somewhat rare. Many of the European engines (like the B200) are interference, -and since the original Haynes books were written in the UK, they were citing facts for the UK publishing. However, the author(s) probably didn't know that the North American engines weren't interference.

2) How easy is it (ie. how many hours labour) is it for a mechanic to tell if I've bent valves / damaged the pistons, etc

I would assume that you're valves aren't damaged and your pistons are fine. (at least nothing changed/occured during the timing belt snap)

3) What else can expect to have possibly damaged?

Check that the timing belt tensioner rolls freely and without any resistance or grit in the bearing. Replace if in doubt. This would not have been damaged in the belt snap, but is not uncommon to be in need of replacement on cars of this age. Also, check for oil leakage around the cam/crank/intermediate shaft seals when you're changing the timing belt. Oil leakage here may not mean the seals are bad, but that you have a clogged crankcase ventalation system (PCV).

4) How many hours shop it take a mechanic to fix this if it's only the timing belt that needs to be replaced and there is no internal engine damage?

Personally, the fastest I've changed a timing belt on a 240 was in about 40 or 45 minutes and I'm not a professional mechanic. But, I'd also done it before and had no problems or complications along the way. If a shop is billing you more than 2 hours, I'd be suspicious. The hardest part of the operation on a B230 is getting the front crank pulley bolt free, but on your B21 it should be a piece of cake.

God bless,
Fitz Fitzgerald.
--
'87 Blue 240 Wagon, 253k miles.








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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

I imagine a shop should bill about 1 1/2 hours. The belt itself costs $6.50 from FCP Groton for a TRW. If you decide to do it yourself, post a question and you'll get lots of good tips. If you decide to do seals, you'll spend a little more money and time. It's not difficult if you have some tools and are inclined toward getting a little greasy.
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Thanks everyone for all the information and advice, Doug C. 81 242 Brick Off Blocks, stock, B21F (non-Turbo), M46; 86 244, B230, 140k , auto.








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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

You can expect to pay for 2.5-5 hours. The part is also not cheap. Just be glad the engine is not cheap, and it's non-interference! Be sure to do the whole kit, including front main seal, timing belt tensioner, timing belt, and timing belt cover gasket. An ounce of prevention...








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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

Your A. O. K, no problem with whats happened, just replace the belt and you should be ready to go, these are non-interference engines
Good Luck
Poolman








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B21 Timing Belt Broke - Is It a Non-Interference Engine? 200

Your A. O. K, no problem with whats happened, just replace the belt and you should be ready to go, these are non-interference engines
Good Luck
Poolman







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