I checked out and test drove the 1974 164E today. The car has 156K on it, it's dark blue with a light blue leather interior. It was in fair condition with some rust, the original paint was shot and so was the interior (the leather was all cracked & ripped, the seats had covers over them). The dash had cracks on it and the car had a number of minor, but annoying problems (radio didn't work, hood latch busted, horn grills falling off, exhaust leaks, gas gauge sticks, rear bumper shock collapesed, front right brake caliper was sticking from the car sitting, some trim missing, various interior pieces warped from heat/sun, etc.). As you can tell the car needs a lot of attention, but it's the original owner (all recipts, including original window sticker) and certainly restorable. On the plus side, the transmission (auto) was just rebuilt by a volvo mechanic and the engine ran very well (and very strong), no oil burning. He was asking $1200 for the car.

The test drive: the car felt VERY different then my 1970 144s and looked different too (with the post-1972 dash, etc.). The car rode much quieter and smoother and of course, had a LOT more power. I was surprised to see that even with the 3-speed auto it was revving at only 3000 rpm at 65 (I guess the axle ratio is different then in 140's?). The wheels are also much wider on this car, he had 205/60's all around on the stock wheels, they fit perfect.

The conclusion: I'm keeping the 144. While this may not have been a very good example of a 164, I definately prefer the 144 better overall. I think part of that is the post-1972 changes, which I just don't care for. I prefer my vintage volvo's to have the smaller bumpers, less plastic in the interior, a more simple dash, side view mirrors on the door skin, non-recessed door handles, SU carbs, etc. Maybe I would have liked it better if it was a 1972 or earlier model. Although the engine is powerful, it looks intimidating to work on. It's not the common B20 or B18 that we all know and love (and can find parts for). The 164 felt heavy and complicated, while my 144 feels light and simple. I guess it's just a matter of taste. Maybe I'll find a pre-72 164 to look at some day that will change my mind about these cars, but until then I'm staying with my fun & simple old 144. Now if I could only have the power of a 6 cyl and the low revs on the highway w/ auto in my 144 I'd really be happy.:-)