Hi Peter,

You are right! It should be another thread but I was matching a pain with pain for Dave and some entertaining read!

Thanks for the feed back!
That’s just the place I went to get a solenoid.
I bought the 39.99 one though, because I saw the copper looking studs to hope they went all the way through.
The free shipping was from within California!

Yours has the same deal but I slide away from things that seem too cheap to be true.
Yes, they can make the solenoids for as low as $4 each @10,000+ batches.
Land or Air Shipping space isn’t staying @ $15 a cubic foot either!


I have been bit before over “shipping” on two items that were completely wrong.
I paid out a bunch of shipping charges due to computer invoice errors on his end.
Returned items had different prices credited going between the two invoices that didn’t talk to each other. My card was used too easily to make it look like a new order when it wasn’t! A mess!
I don’t do business out of Florida State, anymore ever, for anything!
Cons area everywhere, there, IMO.
Without saying who it was.
That port is to “Rich” for me and its proprietor was an ASP for not covering his errors!

I never though about cranking speeds affecting proximity sensors?
Either starter outputs are 1.4-.7 KW or about Two Horsepower. The turning speed could vary maybe 50 rpm. It would still be an interesting experiment, nonetheless.
Their speed sound is different due to planetary gearing to get the torque up from an armature’s speed when it has less iron.
The size and weight are the harder driving factors today and cost is sometimes along for the ride as a third rail!

I agree the 1990’s up w/ 2.4 are different animals.
Especially the 1993 with its very subtle changes!
Now that’s another thread! (:-)

Phil