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Need Help! '81 240DL 200


I am still trying to troubleshoot a no-start condition on my girlfriends 240DL.

I think I have it narrowed down to a fault in the fuel delivery system but I'll recap my efforts to date and maybe someone out there has some insight that my help me get this thing to running.

OK, to begin with when I spray starting fluid into one of the access ports in the intake manifold the car starts right up and runs fairly clean for a few seconds until the starting fluid is burned.

This would tell me that the ignition is ok.

(The original failure mode was that I was driving down the road doing about 45 mph when the engine just stopped running...no sputtering or lurching or anything just a coast to a stop)

I have disconnected the fuel inlet line to the fuel filter (located on the top side of the drivers side firewall)

When I try to start the car a small amount of gasoline comes out of the line but not what I would think that would be needed to pressurize the system).

My initial thoughts are that the fuel that I see is the result of the pump in the tank and not the one under the car. The fuel relay seels to be working ok.

(When I was trying to remove the fuel pump relay under the dash the cover came off of the relay so I was able to watch the relay work and it seems ok)

I next removed the fuse #7 and measured the current draw on that circuit and it measured around three (3) amps while I was cranking the car. My Haynes manual indicates the motor rating at 6.5A.

I'll continue to check the schematic tonight when I get home to see if anything else is on fuse 7.

Can someone tell me how much fuel should be coming out of the fuel line going to the filter when the pump should be running. Like I said, some does come out but it is not with sufficient force as to shoot out of the line with any significant force.

I am leaning towards a faulty pump but the something in the circuit is drawing about 3 amps so maybe the pump is ok.

By the way I connect a spart fuel injector to one of the injector circuits and the injector was firing away (clicking) whenever I would try to start the car
so I think the injectors and engine controller are ok.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

This is my first post to the forum and I did post one saturday and got a few response but but I didn't know what I was doing so it went to all forums. I think I got this one to just the 200 series.

Thanks to all for your help.

Rick B.

'81 240DL
'85 528e
'76 Camaro (origninal owner)








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    Need Help! '81 240DL 200

    Rick -- if you do end up diagnosing this as a bad main fuel pump (and it certainly sounds like it is, if it's only delivering a trickle -- my understanding is that K-jets pump a ton of gas most of which returns to the tank and only a trickle actually is sent to the injectors), please be aware that K-jets require a higher pressure pump than the later, more common LH-jets. So just don't let Pep Boys, etc., sell you a 'universal' pump that 'works on all Volvos'. Make sure it's intended for an '81 K-jet.

    Bentley has a good procedure for diagnosing K-jet fuel delivery ills -- it's in the turbo chapter.

    Rob Kuhlman








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    Need Help! '81 240DL 200

    I had that problem with my daughter's car and it was indeed the main
    fuel pump. There were other problems too.

    I'd suggest you get under the car and listen when the pump is activated.
    You can probably activate it by jumpering fuses 5 and 7.
    You should hear it run.

    I was able to measure pressure at the fuel line under the hood and it was
    about 3 psi. With the line deadheaded it should be nearer 100 psi.
    Your regulator has to bleed off to regulate it to around 65-70 psi.
    A different fuel pump got me back into operation. BTW I could feel
    vibration with the main pump running but it was not putting up the
    pressure.

    I had to make pressure measuring hoses which I used with a refrigeration
    gauge manifold. A friend gave me some scrap refrigeration charging
    hoses and I used fittings from a CIS system I got at a salvage. The
    local welding supply store was kind enough to put ferrules on the hoses
    for me at 30 cents each.
    --
    George Downs, The "original" Walrus3, Bartlesville, Oklahoma








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    Need Help! '81 240DL 200

    The main fuel pump is located such that one can almost touch it, up and behind of the LR wheel. Put your ear near there while someone turns the key to position II. It should kick it for a short while.

    The in-tank pump can be heard by listening at the gas filler pipe, hold the little "unleaded only" flap open.

    At the risk if being insulting, it's not just out of gas, is it?

    Good Luck,

    Bob

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      Need Help! '81 240DL 200

      I certainly hope not!

      Talk about feeling "fuelish" if that was the case.

      However, I had been driving her car as mine was in the shop when this happened and I was pretty sure it wasn't out of gas.

      Just to make sure, though I added two (2) gallons last night and I'll probably add two more tonight.

      By the way, I noticed when I start the car and the ignition switch is on (and it might be position two (2) if that is the position just befor "crank") the relay does not energize. It only energizes when the car is "cranked" as best as I can tell.

      Does that sound right to you?

      Anyway, thanks for your response










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        Need Help! '81 240DL 200

        It looks like I have a problem similar to yours. I would be interested in knowing where that 3 amp draw is coming from too. The other side of the that, I noticed that when I put a bottle of octane booster in the tank, life was great for the duration of the booster resident in the tank having me believe that the booster is opening up the pump without greater electrical need but that still does not address the issue and bottles of booster is a bit tough to come by regularly. Eventually, this will clog the injectors too.

        If you find out what that 3 amp draw is, would you please post it so I can try to get a make of it on the wiring diagram for my Mom's 1982 260?

        Thanks in advance.

        Charlane







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