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After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

My friend washed the engine down last night and this morning, I can't get it to start. The battery is new. It almosts starts and then cuts out. I have had this car for over 10 years and it only has 90,000 miles on it & is due for the 90,000 mile service. I'm visiting a small town outside of Dallas, Texas & I don't know of any mechanics. At this point, I would have to have her towed...Usually, she purrs like a kitten. I've never, ever had this happen before. Any suggestions, advice or name of a good mechanic in the area would be helpful.








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    After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

    I am glad to hear it is running again. Many times people wash the engine with too much water and fill up the sparkplug holes, grounding them out so that it will not start.

    Wet fuses? Hair dryer is good. Pulling out and drying off the fuses is also a good idea.

    AC not working after washing is a problem. Because it worked great before the wash, you will need to check the fuses for the AC. BTW, if your climate control is in auto mode, do you get blinking lights when you start the engine?

    I would wait a couple of hot days before I brought it in to an AC shop. The chain store fixits will probably be worse for the car, eventhough they are cheap. Besides, the heat will probably dry the engine some more.

    Best air circulation is driver's window down and right rear window down.

    Klaus
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    Why are Volvos so endearing? Its just a car.








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      After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

      I did take it to a local shop.They checked it for free & said it has plenty of freon and that the compressor is working. He did say he thought it was an electrical issue but he also said that one of the fuses is blown and that it probably goes to the lighter. I will check all the fuses as soon as it cools down here. My car registered 111 degrees. Oh! The lights are not blinking on the climate control knobs when I start the car.This auto repair center does not a machine to do the diagnostic codes.
      Maybe it's just me but it sure seems like it's blowing much cooler air when it's idling. Thanks for the wonderful information.
      Knowledge is power.
      Phyllis
      myspace . com/ cobb4cobb - if you want to see my beautiful car :)








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    After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

    Thanks so much for the valuable information. I did see some water in the main fusebox. I'm about to get the blow dryer and see if that helps. I'll send you a reply as soon as I'm done.








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    After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

    Mechanic? HA, why when you can do the fix yourself...

    The engine bay could still be wet, which might be causing the no start. Leave the car on run (not on start, position II if i recall correctly) for a minute or so to let the diagnostics start up. Is the check engine light or anything on?

    I'm hoping you didn't wash with the pressure washer, but if you did you get to check more stuff!

    Your car needs 3 things to run, fuel, spark, and compression. Because your car ran yesterday and you shut it of normally I'd have to assume that compression is fine. That leaves fuel, another easy one, and spark. The easiest way to test that you're getting fuel is after you try to start a couple of times, leave the key on run and go to your engine bay, on the drivers side edge of the fuel rail. There you will find a plug where you could put a gauge. I'm guessing you don't have one, but for simplicities sake just use a small screwdriver or something to push it in for a split second, some fuel should spray out (its about 40psi so don't use your finger, and dont hold it long, just enough to verify that gas sprays).

    Assuming this passes, Pull out your plugs, how do they look? Black and full of soot, soaked with fuel, or normal. Odds are if they're soaked you have a problem with your ignition somewhere. Likely just water, so keep your hood open all day and let it dry in the hot texas sun!

    I'm also assuming you checked the fuses up in the engine compartment?

    Hopefully one of these things will narrow it for you otherwise i can give you more to check... :-)








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      After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

      Okay, I got her started after blow drying the fuses. After a few minutes of letting her run, I turned it off, waited a few minutes and then it sounded like I may have flooded it.I couldnt get it started. Good news is that the battery is strong and that I got it started. The hood is open & I hope she just needs to dry out. Guess I should have taken her for a spin to dry out faster.
      Do you know of any good mechanics in the Dallas area? I need to get the 90,000 mile service done and the a/c is not blowing very cold. Thanks so much for the information. You can see a beautiful picture of my car at www . myspace . com / cobb4cobb








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        After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

        Nope, sorry I don't know any mechanics down there. Good to hear the bricks running again. Easy that it was just wet. Make sure your cabin filter is clean. I believe its in the engine bay on the passenger side up on the firewall. I think its held on by one or two torx screws. If you haven't changed it recently, you definitely should. Hopefully your A/C is a simple solution, it can get quite hot in these things quite quick!








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          After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

          I just had the cabin filter replaced a week ago. I did remove the cover to see if it got wet. Thank heavens it is dry! The car is sputtering when I attempt to drive it so, I think the spark plugs got wet. I have the car running (idling) right now. I think I learned a valuable lesson today....Thank you for helping me out. You saved the day! By they way, since the a/c is not cooling as it normally does, what are the chances that it just needs freon? I am so afraid to take it anywhere, especially, being a female (No punn intended!)








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            After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

            The odds that it just needs freon? Quite slim
            Though that doesn't mean it has to be a huge (read: expensive) fix. I don't know how bad it is, or how quickly its gotten bad, but it will likely need refrigerant. Go to a shop and have them charge your A/C. Yeah it will cost a little more, but you'll get better stuff. Also they should put (you might have to ask) the dye in it as well. That way if it leaks out you can pinpoint it. Hopefully its a connection which should stay under $100 to fix. A condenser will probably run you ~200 to have it done, compressor between 5-600 if you get an OEM part, less if you go aftermarket. Hopefully its not the evaporator, thats just not worth replacing (1300+) with all the labor involved...


            PS Since indies are somewhat of a crapshoot, i looked up the dealer in your area. They have a special right now for $50 off your 90k service. While thats not too much (IIRC 90k service on those is about $1100, its a big service time, sorry) its something. If you want to go indie shop I recommend staying with an import shop. There are a couple in your neck of the woods, one would have to be good. Otherwise, flag down a couple of volvo owners and ask where they go and who they'd recommend. If you don't see too many around, look on craigslist at people selling theirs and just send them an e-mail... Remember most of what you have to replace now is the first time its going to be replaced. This means that you can expect it to last that long again. An extra $50-100 for genuine parts that you'll get 90k miles out of isn't that bad of a deal...








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              After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

              Okay, the A/C is working after having both pressure switches replaced for $570.00 at a local shop with a good reputation. I also got the 90,000 mile service done & a new timing belt. It was all very expensive ($2,500) but well worth it, I hope. The one thing they said it needed after I paid the bill was 4 motor mounts ($880.00)They also said it needs outer tie rod ends ($200.00) and Lower control arms ($710.00) and an alignment for $180.00. Any advice on if this guy is seriously over charging me? When I was married, my husband handled all the repairs.....








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                After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

                I seriously doubt you need 4 motor mounts. If the car pull to one side while driving, then 'a' tie rod might need replacing. Both control arms? I live in a high rent district and alignments cost $100.

                Do not go back there.

                Now... You had your Timing belt replaced? at 90K miles? If your car has variable valve timing and coils over the spark plugs, then the belt was changed a bit early. If not, check your papers and find out when the last time the belt was changed. Older style engines have 70K mile belts, while the newer have 105K belts.
                You can also look at the parts list from the current service. Check if the tensioner is the mechanical version or hydraulic. Hydraulic tensioners typically last 200K miles, as do water pumps.

                Never get service away from your local mechanic, again.

                Klaus
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                Why are Volvos so endearing? Its just a car.








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                After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

                I'm going to assume that you're not doing the work yourself and the quotes you list include labour.

                Let's look at the parts pricing from FCP.

                Remember that the garage relies on markup to make money, so unless you're buying the parts yourself and bringing them to the garage (some garages don't like this because you're eating their aforementioned margin) and/or doing the work yourself (ie: no labour cost) you're going to pay more than FCP charges to get the parts through a mech.

                Also realize that garages do what's easy for them - ie: buy parts from NAPA/CarQuest/etc whose prices will be MUCH higher than FCP.

                FCP does free shipping in the US and offers %10 off to matthew's volvo site members (the coupon code is on their homepage ad).

                Also remember I don't know what your local shop labour rates are like. Around where I live it's ~$50-$100 (dealers charge the higher rates, indie the lesser).

                4 engine mounts:
                I'm not sure which 4 mounts they're referring to, I as I think on FWD cars there are only 3. Here's FCP's kit for $100 : http://www.fcpgroton.com/product-exec/product_id/26227/nm/Volvo_850_S70_V70_Engine_Mount_Kit/category_id/109
                Are you noticing a lot of vibration from the engine when you're idling in traffic or at a stop sign?

                labour : ~2 hours?

                my opinion : $900 seems like way too much for this job



                Outer tie rod ends:
                FCP has aftermarket ends for $13 each and OEM (better) for $34 each:
                http://www.fcpgroton.com/category-exec/category_id/180/nm/Tie_Rods/sub_top_menu_item/by_make-by_model-by_year/by_make/78/by_model/1163/by_year/48

                labour : ~1 hour for both sides

                my opinion : $200 seems like a lot for this job




                Control arms/ball joints:
                FCP has OEM (don't buy the aftermarket ones) for $145:
                http://www.fcpgroton.com/category-exec/category_id/183/nm/Front_Control_Arms_and_Ball_Joints/sub_top_menu_item/by_make-by_model-by_year/by_make/78/by_model/1163/by_year/48

                labour : ~1 hour

                my opinion : $710 is far too much to par for this job


                Alignment:
                my opinion : $180 for an alignment is absolutely f@#$ing ridiculous. Is he flying someone in from Sweden to do the work? A good alignment from someone with good equipment and experience is well worth the money IMHO, but most places aren't nearly careful enough and leave a lot to be desired in terms of their results.

                Where my parents live in NS alignements cost ~$50. Where I live in NB they cost about $60. $100 would be a lot to pay for an alignment unless you know you're getting super top-notch work done and they agree to free re-checks and warranty it for 5000 miles (which no alignment shop will agree to unfortunately).




                Parts you already paid for:

                AC Pressure Switches:
                I don't know much about the AC system, but FCP has a pressure switch for $100:
                http://www.fcpgroton.com/category-exec/category_id/77/nm/A_C_Switches_and_Sensors/sub_top_menu_item/by_make-by_model-by_year/by_make/78/by_model/1163/by_year/48

                labour : a few minutes to install I think. Diagnostic to find problem could be high.

                my opinion : $570 is too much for this work.




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              After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

              Good news. The car is dried out. No more stalling....Bad news is the A/C. It just got this way yesterday. My hazard lights would not work so, I checked the fuses. It works now. Could the A/C temp have something to do with a fuse? I tinkered with several of them but I put them all back in place. I have a coupon that just came in the mail for $39.99 a/c service check at major franchise that is local. Includes temp. check, freon top off to 1 pound, install dye to check for leaks. Would this be where I want to take her? Is this the same as charging the A/C ? You are so awesome to help me with this! I won't take her in until I hear back from you.....








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                After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

                Ya that will charge it. You shouldn't need more than a pound, and if you do you've got a leak that shouldn't be too hard to find. I assume they'll use a UV dye so you should see it under a black light. It isn't a bad idea to have them do it, just make sure they are only authorized to do that. Sometimes they get people by either having them authorize all repairs and doing more than necessary, or by convincing you that you need more repairs than necessary..

                The A/C doesn't really blow cold, its not an issue of it works 5-10 minutes then stops, right? Thats a different fix. ..

                Also your volvo should be able to diagnose several problems on its own. To check if it has a code start with your car off (key in position 0) Then move forward to either I or II and look at the REC button on the climate control, it will flash one time if there's a code. If it flashes push the REC button twice, and only twice, when the light flashes and within 2.5 seconds of turning the key. The REC light will flash corresponding to whatever code it has. The code is three digit and the car will tell you one digit at a time. It is on for one second and then off for .5 if its counting up (so if the first number is 2 you'll have one second on .5 second off one second on) Then when it pauses for 2 seconds its switching numbers. After it finishes the first code (remember 3 numbers to a code) it will be 5 second delay between codes, if there's more than one. Therefore if you get the code 2-3-1 and 1-1-1 you'd have this sequence : 1s on, .5s off, 1s on, 2soff, 1s on, .5s off, 1s on, .5s off, 1s on, 2s off, 1s on, 5s off, 1s on, 2s off, 1s on, 2s off, 1s on ...










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                  Reading ECC code in dash S70 1998

                  Why didn't someone tell me this before:

                  "Also your volvo should be able to diagnose several problems on its own. To check if it has a code start with your car off (key in position 0) Then move forward to either I or II and look at the REC button on the climate control, it will flash one time if there's a code. If it flashes push the REC button twice, and only twice, when the light flashes and within 2.5 seconds of turning the key. The REC light will flash corresponding to whatever code it has. The code is three digit and the car will tell you one digit at a time. It is on for one second and then off for .5 if its counting up (so if the first number is 2 you'll have one second on .5 second off one second on) Then when it pauses for 2 seconds its switching numbers. After it finishes the first code (remember 3 numbers to a code) it will be 5 second delay between codes, if there's more than one. Therefore if you get the code 2-3-1 and 1-1-1 you'd have this sequence : 1s on, .5s off, 1s on, 2soff, 1s on, .5s off, 1s on, .5s off, 1s on, 2s off, 1s on, 5s off, 1s on, 2s off, 1s on, 2s off, 1s on ... "


                  I wonder if this also works for 1996 - 2000??

                  Klaus

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                    Reading ECC code in dash S70 1998

                    because then maybe you would not have learned something today? :-)

                    I know this procedure works for the s70s and I don't believe it does on the 850's, though I don't know about other models...


                    Also, when I read her post about the A/C i thought that was an older issue not just happening today. I do wonder if it could be the clutch not always engaging, though I am hoping for codes. Since Freon hasn't leaked she's off to a great start








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                      Reading ECC code in dash S70 1998

                      I am here to learn something each and every day :)

                      Yep, washing down an engine with a hose is a no-no. If the fuses got wet, I wonder what other electrical connections also got wet. I am surprised that she didn't wind up with 3-4 inches of water in the sparkplug holes.

                      I do not believe anything is wrong with her AC, except for fuses and relays.

                      Klaus
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                      Why are Volvos so endearing? Its just a car.








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                        Reading ECC code in dash S70 1998

                        I'm taking the car in to a volvo repair shop in Noth Richland Hills, TX. he is highly recommended and a personal friend, of a friend. I have all my notes from you guys and as soon as I get back, I'll post what the issue was. I can't thank you all enough for helping me :) Thanks so much, Phyllis
                        www.myspace.com/cobb4cobb








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                  After washing down the engine, it will not start. Help! S70 1998

                  The a/c works as usual but the air is not cold. The REC button is the recirculation button? A friend of mine will print out your directions and help me with this tonight.
                  You have been so nice and have saved me tons of money! I'll email you with the codes as soon as we get them. Thanks so much for all your help.







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